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Reminiscing About Spring 2009

In 2009, Jaime Moreno and DC United used to frequently come from behind. What happened?

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In 2009, Jaime Moreno and DC United used to frequently come from behind. What happened?

Remember last year?

It wasn't all that long ago.

Remember when our beloved DC United would not quit?  The team would frequently find themselves down a goal or two with five minutes left, but it wouldn't matter.  That United team could never be counted out.

Here are some examples that will make you smile:

  • 4/17/09: DC United 1, New England Revolution 1. Ben Olsen scores the tying goal in stoppage time after outleaping Wells Thompson for a header, and then turning and yelling into Thompson's face while he's on the ground.
  • 4/26/09: DC United 3, New York Red Bulls 2. Once again in stoppage time, Chris Pontius buries a loose ball in the back of the net after United thoroughly outplayed their opponents for a deserved victory.
  • 5/2/09: DC United 2, FC Dallas 1.  It wasn't exactly in the final minutes, but Jaime Moreno scored two second half goals to overcome a 1-0 halftime deficit.
  • 5/9/09: DC United 3, Toronto FC 3.  Tom Soehn's two second half substitutes each rewarded him with goals.  Chris Pontius in the 87th minute and Jaime Moreno in the 92nd.
  • 5/16/09: DC United 2, Chivas USA 2. United looked dead and buried in the first half, but Luciano Emilio and Santino Quaranta broke Zach Thornton's 400 minute goalless streak with two strikes in the final 15 minutes of play.

At that point in the season, DC United was in first place in the Eastern Conference, and had either won or tied four matches with a goal in the final five minutes of the match.  Pretty impressive.

What happened to that fight?

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It went to Baltimore

and is waiting for them to arrive…

by DonCaps819 on May 24, 2025 9:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't think it's an issue of fight at all

The problem isn’t that the current team lacks the guts to fight things out. In the past 5 or 6 games, our problem has never been a lack of fight. It’s that we simply don’t have the ability. This team isn’t good enough to rely on desire to push it over the hump.

If you can’t create against teams when they’re open enough to come at you, you’ll never get anything going once those same teams shut the game down and start closing up shop at the back. No amount of heart is going to compensate for our lack of vision or our frequently imprecise passing once we enter the attacking third.

We’ve come out flat a few times, but I put that down to a lack of focus and low confidence. There’s a difference between being flat and simply not battling. The teams Onalfo has been sending out are all guys that want to fight for the shirt (save Emilio, who looks entirely disinterested). With a few exceptions, they’re also all guys that should be depth, not starters, because they can’t do enough going forward.

Desire/fight/heart is well down the list of things to fix, in my opinion.

by ChestRockwell on May 24, 2025 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

But we DO have the ability

That was part of the point of bringing back these fond memories. The players I named - Olsen, Pontius, Moreno, Quaranta, Emilio - all but one are still on the team. Those players had the ability to score late goals almost every match in early 2009. Why they can’t they do the same in 2010?

If its not lack of ability, and its not lack of fight, what is it? Conditioning? Bad system?

by Martin Shatzer on May 24, 2025 12:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The players I named – Olsen, Pontius, Moreno, Quaranta, Emilio – all but one are still on the team.

Well let’s clarify for a second. All but one of them have missed multiple games this season already, and the one who hasn’t is lucky if he sees more than 60 minutes a game.

But two of the last 3 games (Houston, FCD) have at least shown that they want to fight and come back, but there’s nothing in the tank to do it. Part of that’s on the absences of the guys you mention, but a good deal of that lies at (what I think is) Chest’s assertion that there isn’t a proverbial rug tying the room together.

They're coming.

by Bald Pollack on May 25, 2025 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m saying ability is the biggest factor. All of those guys are still around, but Pontius has been hurt and showed poor form as a forward. Moreno seems to have aged faster in this offseason than he ever has before. Teams also know that, more than ever, we lack players with vision and creativity, so they collapse on Moreno and eliminate our smartest attacking player. Quaranta’s been hurt and was in miserable form anyway. Emilio looks like he can’t even muster 5 minutes of solid effort, much less the 30-45 minutes he’s being asked to provide. On paper it’s a decent group, but when they’re all in bad form or unfit and we’re weak in the back, things fall apart.

Maybe when Pontius and Tino round into form, we can start moving forward, but right now Pontius looks average and Quaranta’s still healing from his infection. That lack of other dangerous players means that the mob around Moreno will continue to render him ineffective.

Ability and mental strength are killing us, and we don’t have any kind of galvanizing veteran leader. Yes, we have veterans, but none that inspire those around them to be more than they are. Note that when players talk about Moreno, they talk about learning from him. They don’t talk about being inspired to find that little bit extra that turns into the crucial tackles or 50 yard sprints that are the foundation of the big play that doesn’t end up on the scoresheet.

by ChestRockwell on May 25, 2025 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem hasn't been a lack of fight or ability in the first half.

Save for Houston (which just came out and rolled United):
- Ballouchy, 67’
- Cunningham, 68’
- Ibrahim, 51’ & Angel, 60’
- Pappa, 80’ & McBride, 89’

Based on what I’ve seen so far, it …well, it looks like a nasty combination of age and ability. Moreno’s 36. Emilio’s 31 (and was unemployed). Pontius is 23 and Quaranta is 25, but who’s going to get the ball to them? Pena is 37. Carey Talley is 33. Heck, Namoff is 31. The kids on the roster aren’t quite ready yet (hello, Castillo and Rodney Wallace - at least at RB).

The only game that DC showed up - full team, full 90 - was Kansas City. Every other game they’ve taken off at least part of it, and this team as comprised isn’t good enough to do that.

Simulated Gameday Experience - just like the real thing, only we have smoke machines.

by Chris Pendley on May 24, 2025 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree that we even played a full 90 against Kansas City. That game was the worst MLS game I’ve seen this year. We were poor, KC was worse, and we somehow stumbled into a 2-1 win. Honestly, if KC had even been mediocre, they would have buried us due to the number of absurd giveaways in our own end and the gaps we left all over the place.

The play that sums that game up was in the first half, when Graye made a totally aimless pass straight at a Wizards player (I believe it was Arnaud). As the ball arrived at Arnaud’s feet, Graye was about 20 yards out of position and KC had all of their forwards in decent spots. Arnaud, for no good reason, got overexcited and rushed a pass to no one, despite having the ball in a great spot against a defense that was all over the place.

I was glad we found a way to win, but we sucked that night.

by ChestRockwell on May 25, 2025 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That doesn't help matters.

I was trying to give DC the benefit of the doubt, but yes, KC played terribly. (And Hamid’s / Alisopp’s play is coloring my impression of that game.)

So if they’re weak in the back, weak in the middle*, and ineffective in the front, can we just blow it up and start over?

*It’s tough to play a 4-3.5-2, as I refuse to give Morsink credit for being a full player until I see evidence he actually is one.

Simulated Gameday Experience - just like the real thing, only we have smoke machines.

by Chris Pendley on May 25, 2025 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

What happened to that fight?

You mean Olsen…?

Speaking of, Benny’s been remarkably quiet through all this. That’s appropriate as an assistant, but I wonder what kind of impact he is having at practice, from the sides, etc. Is he just keeping a low profile? Is he struggling to find a way to inject his leadership/drive from the management side?

by rke on May 24, 2025 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Updating his resume?

You know, in case a head coaching position opens soon*.

*not advocating this

Simulated Gameday Experience - just like the real thing, only we have smoke machines.

by Chris Pendley on May 24, 2025 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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