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Exploring 2012 MLS expansion options

MLS has said its goal is to expand to twenty teams by 2012, adding Philly this year for sixteen and Portland and Vancouver next year for eighteen. The question still looms: who will be the last two expansion teams?

There are a fair number of options:

  • Atlanta - Currently, there are no MLS teams in the southeast, so many of these cities are in that region of the continent. Some would argue against Florida teams, since we already had the failed teams in Tampa Bay and Miami. Atlanta is the biggest metro area in the Southeast that isn't Miami.
  • Birmingham - The mayor of Birmingham, AL has stated his desire to bring an MLS side to the city. While the obvious downside is that it's a very small city in an area that's not traditionally soccer-friendly, the upside is that an MLS Birmingham team would have a monopoly over the local pro sports market there.
  • Detroit - Detroit is a big market that's never been tapped for MLS. It is Detroit though, so the economy isn't exactly booming for potential merchandise sales.
  • Miami - Yes, Miami Fusion FC already failed in South Florida. But Major League Soccer has grown exponentially since the team disbanded in 2001. Plus there's already a successful minor league team there, Miami FC.
  • Montreal - This is the biggest no-brainer to me. Some Americans don't like the idea of having three Canadian teams, but I think it's stupid to ignore great potential markets. Montreal also already has a great minor league team, the Montreal Impact. They're the only non-MLS side to compete in the Canadian Championship (to determine Canada's entry into the CONCACAF Champions League), along with Toronto FC and 2011 MLS side Vancouver Whitecaps FC. It just makes sense to upgrade the Impact to Major League status.
  • New York - Rumor has it that the owner of the New York Mets wants to create a second New York MLS team and bring it to Queens. NYC is a huge market, but the Red Bulls aren't exactly selling out all their games yet...
  • Ottawa - The city of Ottawa has campaigned increasingly for an MLS side. At first glance, one would think that if MLS were to add a third Canadian team, they'd go to Montreal first. But if you've ever been to Quebec, the Montreal Canadiens are on French Canadians' minds every single day, and the Ottawa Senators don't have nearly as strong a hold on the Ottawa sports market.
  • St. Louis - St. Louis is another common-sense candidate for an MLS team--but is Kansas City too close? Probably not. I guess we'll find out.

SBN doesn't let me create a poll with the ability to choose two options, so just pick your top choice.

Poll
Who do you think should be the 2012 MLS expansion teams?
Atlanta
3 votes
Birmingham
0 votes
Detroit
0 votes
Miami
1 votes
Montreal
8 votes
New York
2 votes
Ottawa
1 votes
St. Louis
1 votes

16 votes | Poll has closed

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I voted for Montreal, but I’d choose either Miami or Atlanta for the second team. They make the most sense to me.

"My face is my mask."

by Jake Shapiro on Jan 19, 2025 11:51 AM EST reply actions  

I voted for Montreal too, but the second team should be in the best soccer city thats not in the MLS and thats St. Louis. Huge fanbase, rabid support for all of their franchises, just a great sports town all around, St. Louis should be the last franchise into MLS.

by DonCaps819 on Jan 19, 2025 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

Then why does STL still have no votes in the poll!

"My face is my mask."

by Jake Shapiro on Jan 20, 2025 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

No "none of the above"?

I voted for Atlanta, and I suppose Montreal (despite what will be terrible conditions for soccer in the early and late stages of the season) should be able to get the requisite support to be the second choice.

However, I think MLS is expanding too quickly. The talent pool is already kind of thin, and now we have to stock 2 more MLS teams, and potentially 2 more on top of that? It’s not like MLS benches are brimming with starting-quality talent. Even good teams have at least a couple guys on their bench that are never going to be MLS regulars and that their fans don’t want to see on the field. Since the players were more focused on their rights to free agency over the size of their contracts, it looks like the CBA won’t result in a big salary cap boost. How are teams supposed to fill their rosters? Foreign signings take money, and MLS doesn’t exactly splash the cash.

It might seem cruel since I have an MLS team near me, but I think the league would be healthier delaying expansion for awhile. Instead, we should focus on improving the talent pool via more resources on the academy, better coaching, and more scouting (most MLS teams don’t even have a single, full-time scout!).

by ChestRockwell on Jan 19, 2025 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

You’re completely right, but I expect (or hope) that the league will reach 20 teams and then stop after that for the forseeable future.

"My face is my mask."

by Jake Shapiro on Jan 20, 2025 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

20 teams

20 teams seems to be the goal. The talent will come with an expanded salary cap and an extra 2 international spots per team. Best cities— Montreal seems to be the front runner. Detroit never in a million years. StL is the sentimental favorite plus they don’t have the NBA (which is helping Seattle) New York is interesting because of derby possibilities but Red Bull would start to seem really Jersey. Atlanta a possibility because the South is completely shut out right now. Birmingham could be just quirky enough to work or it could be Columbus part 2. Florida sadly had its chance (2 franchises!)
Don’t think any of these teams will make the Dallas/Colorado mistake of building beautiful stadiums in the exurbs. Agree that 20 should be the outer limit and probably better to wait 4 years to allow current teams to gain a foothold.

by Irrlicht on Feb 6, 2025 9:28 PM EST reply actions  

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