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MLS Rumors: Wilman Conde To D.C. United?

Wilman Conde is rumored to want to return to MLS

As uncovered by Simon Borg of MLSsoccer.com this morning, Record.com is reporting that former Chicago Fire defender Wilman Conde will not be returning to Mexican Primera Divsion club Atlas after failing to recover from a leg injury and missing much of the season. The 29-year old Colombian scored two goals in just 13 appearances with Atlas in the last year.

Conde is rumored to want to return to MLS. One of the ideal possible destinations for him could be D.C. United.

When motivated, Conde was one of the best defenders in the league. He collected an MLS Best XI nod back in 2009, and has all the physical traits and abilities to be a force against opposing attackers. The downside to Conde is roughly similar to the downside to Dejan Jakovic – he’s been known to lose focus at times, leading to mental mistakes that can occasionally cost his team. Many Fire fans weren’t sad to see him go after the 2010 season, seeing him as the scapegoat for the team’s defensive misfortunes.

Still, Conde is the type of international player that I could see Ben Olsen pursuing. Olsen has been very cautious (perhaps overly cautious) in his player acquisitions the last year, preferring to sign or trade for players with a proven track record of MLS success, plus Charlie Davies an American who had proven his scoring prowess abroad. Clearly Olsen is familiar with Conde’s abilities and potential for MLS dominance, as the two played against each other in the MLS Eastern Conference for three years.

With Jakovic and Brandon McDonald returning as the incumbent starters at center back for next season, and with Ethan White quickly developing behind them, center back isn’t necessarily United’s top target this offseason. And at a 2010 salary of $200,000, Conde wouldn’t come cheaply. But as United has remained fairly quiet so far this offseason, this could be the kind of splash Olsen would make to get the ball rolling towards a better 2012.

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The Fire still have the MLS rights to Wilman Conde so any other team would be sending some form of compensation to Chicago.

Might be a draft pick in the 9th or 100th round of the supplemental draft but something else to consider.

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by Tweed Thornton on Dec 13, 2011 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

I certainly wouldn't mind having Conde on the team

but CB is the one position I don’t worry about so much, even though White, McDonald, and Jakovic had their less than stellar moments last year. Mainly we need full backs and strikers to make this team better.

by madavis on Dec 13, 2011 4:08 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Don't discount quality depth

That’s what killed us this year – when Pontius went down, we had nobody who could step into his slot and provide anything close to the same level of play. Same for Jakovic at CB (White was incredibly good for a rookie who came in rather raw, but he’s still not quite the finished product – once he is, he could be great; just not yet.). Conde would be something better than just depth, though – he’d be competition for a starting role.

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by The AMT on Dec 13, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

3 center backs probably isn't enough

Robbie Russell has also done a reasonable job filling in there with RSL, and Perry Kitchen will probably be a good replacement at center back if needed, but you don’t want to be shuffling multiple defensive players if you can avoid it. When it comes to defending, stability and familiarity are positives.

Between Jakovic’s injury history and White being 21 (did he even turn 21 yet?), I’d really prefer to see one more center back from somewhere.

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by ChestRockwell on Dec 13, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't mind quality depth

I’d just be more excited about filling our higher need gaps on the roster. We did get Russell, so that was a good start. Conde wouldn’t be the worst $200K we’ve spent. I wouldn’t complain, and I could see him as a starter.

by madavis on Dec 13, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

would be nice

but I can think of more pressing issues and I feel like he would require a high salary

by MrBaker on Dec 13, 2011 5:56 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Better defender at Atlas....

MLS Rumors reported that Conde wants back in the MLS. Later today, the site also reported that another Atlas defender is close to getting an MLS deal. Jonathan Lacerda (Jonathan Leonardo Lacerda Araujo) — has the advantage of being younger than Conde. Maybe he lacks the big S.A. club pedigree that Conde brought to MLS, but he did play for Santos Laguna last year and maybe he doesn’t carry Conde’s emotional baggage….Plus, he might take a cheaper deal.

by fischy on Dec 13, 2011 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

See my FanPost

I’ve posted my thoughts about what DCU has done wrong the last 4 years with their international recruiting. I think that either Conde or Lacerda would be a nice change from the lesser lights that the team has gone after in recent years. Conde had some strong performance against DCU, but my gut tells me that Lacerda would be a better pick-up.

I’d love to hear what y’all think about what I’ve written — so, just click on the fan post box on the right side of this page: DCU’s International Hall of Shame

by fischy on Dec 13, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Lacerda can definitely play

The issue with him is whether he can adapt to the MLS style of play; anyone who can be first-choice with the Santos of recent years is certainly talented enough to do well here. He should do well in MLS, but will he?

Conde, on the other hand, has proven he can succeed in MLS, and has at least some handle on English (an issue that caused problems the last time we had starting center backs from a non-English-speaking country).

Both have an issue. Lacerda is unproven here, but Conde is older. If we were to sign either player, I’d really hope we do our homework.

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by ChestRockwell on Dec 13, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Dubious and Costly

If Atlas is dumping Conde because he failed to recover from a leg injury, why would we want him? If Atlas faces the loss of Lacerda, you’d think they would want to keep a healthy Conde. The bottom line is they don’t consider him able to return to previous form. If DCU wants him for cover at center back, he’s very pricey cover. $200,000 for a No. 3 or No. 4? That money cries out to be spent up top.

by Runningcloud on Dec 14, 2011 8:10 AM EST reply actions  

I tend to agree

I’d rather see the money spent up top, but as I’m a “build from the back kind of guy”, I can live with it. It’s a fair point that Conde comes with some risk if Atlas is cutting him loose, but rolling the dice is part of most any acquisition. To make myself feel better about it, I think of it in salary terms as Ngwenya for Conde plus roughly $50k. I’d take that hypothetical swap. The emphasis is on “hypothetical”.

by madavis on Dec 14, 2011 9:41 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Other reasons Atlas could be cutting him loose

They could be in some financial trouble of their own – I’ve seen reports discussing players’ discontent with the club’s inability to pay them their wages in any kind of timely manner. They might just be in a situation where they’re cutting to the bone, and players coming back from injury aren’t going to get a chance to find their form.

Obviously that doesn’t mean Conde would be a slam dunk here, but we don’t know that a “failed recovery” is the reason he won’t be returning to Atlas. In the same vein, Chris Pontius failed to recover from leg injuries each of the last couple years, but nobody was calling for Pontius to be cut loose after last season or this one, even though he missed (or was ineffective) for nearly all of 2010.

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by The AMT on Dec 14, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Conde wouldn't be our 3rd center back

Unless he’s truly physically broken, Conde would not have much of a problem taking Jakovic’s starting job. Let’s not kid ourselves: Jakovic is a respectable center back, but he’s not a candidate to make an MLS Best XI. Conde, meanwhile, did exactly that in 2009 and then went on to a stronger league. Based on all previous evidence, Conde would be our best center back, and Jakovic would be our overpriced #3.

That said, a lot can happen in 2 years, and there is this injury to worry about with Conde.

P.S. AMT is correct, Atlas is broke. They also pride themselves as a team that relies on their youth system, so a veteran like Conde would be more expensive and older than they’d probably want (especially if they have some youngster ready to step up to the next level).

They must also get more points than Tecos next season or be relegated (in Mexico, the relegation standings are determined by points per game over 3 seasons; the PPG factors in for teams without 3 seasons at the top). It could be that Atlas doesn’t have the money to re-stock and fight relegation, and are instead preparing themselves to attempt to bounce back after going down. That would mean wage cuts and an emphasis on younger players who can succeed in the 2nd division while also developing into 1st division talents.

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by ChestRockwell on Dec 14, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

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