GGW Proposes D.C. United Stadium In College Park - FILED UNDER: zzzzzz, Shatzer Bait
Cavan Wilk, a member of La Barra Brava and a contributor to Greater Greater Washington, has written quite a bit from the urbanist/development perspective on potential stadium solutions for D.C. United. Now, in a move that would certainly set Martin's Terrapin Heart aflutter, he's proposing a stadium on the University of Maryland campus.
Apparently, Ludwig Field isn't big enough for the mighty soccer Terps, and a soccer stadium is in the campus plan, but the university doesn't have the money to build a stadium. What they do have, though, is land and a location within walking distance of the Metro and (eventually) Purple Line light rail, which is exactly what Kevin Payne & Will Chang are looking for.
The extra little bit of plausibility comes in the guise of the Maryland Stadium Authority, the same group that has studied the economic impact of stadium construction in Westport, Baltimore. Y'see, they could just as easily study and help with the finances and logistics of a stadium in College Park, so if the University is game, then the state just might get on board, too.
So the proposal is simple: UMD provides the land, DCU and the MSA provides the stadium; the school and the team split use of the stadium, and split the revenues. The relationship would potentially look a lot like the one between the Galaxy and Cal State-Dominguez Hills. Everybody wins. (Except Baltimore, but that's really a bonus in my book.)
Go give it a read, then come back and let us know what you think in the comments.
My thoughts? In a perfect world, we'd get a stadium within the DC urban core. In my nightmares, the team leaves the area entirely. This is a lot closer to the former than the latter, and so if the team can't work something out with the District, I certainly won't complain about a stadium at UMD.
Before we get our hopes up, though, this is obviously coming from a fan and writer, not from anybody connected to the team or the university. Still, if Chest's Twitter feed is any indication, we as a fan base need to cling to whatever hope we can.
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My wife walked in on me Shatzerbating once. I quickly shut the laptop because I didn’t want her to see what I was looking at.
….which was a picture of Livestrong Sporting Park, and comparing it in size to various open parcels of land in D.C. and PG County.
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by Martin Shatzer on Nov 17, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We’re one motivated reader away from an Urban Dictionary entry…
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I love this idea
Perfect for CP. Major debt as a result of Debbie Yow’s sketchy finances. Not perfect for DCU but as a UMD supporter and MD resident, I absolutely love this idea.
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One Detail to Consider
Do DCU fans, as a group, want to sit in a beer-less stadium to cheer on their team? The UMd campus is virtually dry. Notable dry spots are Byrd and Comcast. Would a futball stadium be dry for Terp matches and wet for DCU? That would be a huge cultural shift for on-campus athletic events. Otherwise, the idea of a shared facility on the campus seems an idea well worth exploring.
Dry
Would rather sit in a dry stadium than not have a team— are there nearby bars? Tailgating? Stadium beer is overpriced anyways. Could see this really benefitting both parties. Make it so.
I'm with Irrlicht
Maybe it’s partially because I have no qualms about sneaking drinks in where they don’t belong, or maybe I just don’t buy many beers during games.
There are nearby bars, but they are college kid bars. Grown ups will feel too old in there. Hell, I felt too old going there at 25 while still living in College Park, and I was (and still am) hardly a model of maturity.
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by ChestRockwell on Nov 17, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Looking to the HDC
They’re on a Cal State University campus, and they have beer sales for (at least) non NCAA games. I think, especially if DCU is building the stadium as a partner, this would be a very small hurdle to clear.
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Keep D.C. United???
Back when United appeared likely to be moving to the Largo area of Prince Georges County, many fans were very much opposed to the idea of locating the team outside the District.
Am I right to assume those minds have been changed by now?
With Mayor Gray still showing absolutely no interest in providing any assistance for our stadium search in the District, I’d be perfectly happy with saying Eff Em and moving to either Maryland or NoVa, as long as its within 5 miles of the Beltway, and within 1 mile of a Metro stop.
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by Martin Shatzer on Nov 17, 2011 11:19 AM EST reply actions
Well
My first choice will always to have the stadium somewhere in/near the core of the city. Whether that’s the Stadium-Armory Complex, Poplar Point, Buzzard Point, Union Market (aka Florida Market/Capital Market), the DC Jail site, the site derelict mall at the Starburst intersection, or somewhere else is secondary, so long as the site is in the city.
I’m also a realist, and I recognize that post-Williams mayors in this town don’t seem especially keen to working with any team that wears something other than burgundy and gold. And that makes me sad, but losing United to Baltimore or Orlando or Queens or Vegas or San Diego would make me a lot more sad. So I can live with “second best,” which is what PG County (either Morgan Blvd or College Park) represents to me: the least-worst option given the probable unavailability of my first choice.
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Yup
CP beats the heck out of Baltimore.
For me personally, RFK is close, Greenbelt was closer, now CP is practically my backyard. (Come to think of it, if they want my backyard, they’re welcome to it.) So it’s easy for me to support.
But I’d welcome a far less-convenient (for me) NOVA before losing the DC area altogether.
It’s all relative.
Oh man
As a Terp and DCU fan, I love this idea! The MD athletics department is hemorrhaging money (thanks, Debbie) and this could be just the cash injection we need to hang on to some of our teams.
One other thing to consider is the further exposure we could get from students who either don’t come from an MLS market, or haven’t adopted an MLS team. Regardless the team’s success, I feel like the fan base could grow just based off the in-game and gameday experience.
I’m probably getting a little ahead of myself here. But for someone that’s heavily in the “keep United in DC” contingent, this option excites me greatly. Anything to keep them out of baltimore!
indeed
College night would be quite a draw and the team could build its national market with students from other places. Plus the team could keep the name and colors. A player could conceivably be homegrown, play at UMD then come to DC and basically be 24 with 10 years playing in the same stadium.
Seeing this as a win-win.
It's not ideal, but it's also the only idea that both sides might embrace
Everyone knows about our problems with the DC government. They stabbed the team in the back over Poplar Point, and now are about as interested in a real stadium discussion as they are in a trip to the DMV or dentist.
Meanwhile, as has been pointed out numerous times, MD needs money. They have land. United needs land and an interested partner in the process. It makes sense, at least on a surface level. I have no idea how interested MD is in having a pro team on campus. I do know that local residents would pitch a fit over the added traffic and noise, because they complain about everything. It might take the state house doing this despite town or county complaints for the university’s health.
Angry College Park NIMBYs wouldn’t be the only issue. The 51% of our fans from Virginia would be inconvenienced (the 395 straight shot to RFK would become 395 to 295 for about 15 minutes, then another 10-20 minutes getting around or through campus). We may view the people who complain on the internet about anything in Maryland being “on the moon” as whiners or people who don’t care that much about the team, but last time I checked those guys are buying tickets, buying shirts, buying beers, and at the same price as the diehards among us. Like it or not, those casual Virginia fans that will complain if the stadium isn’t a 5 minute stroll from their house have to be considered.
All that said, United is a beggar at this point, and as such can’t be choosy. If the team or MD came out tomorrow and said they wanted to discuss this idea, it would instantly be our best hope at staying, and by a wide margin. As such, I would have to embrace it wholeheartedly.
On Twitter earlier, I compared a stadium outside the city but still DC metro to scraping out a 2-1 win over TFC. That was based on the hypothetical idea of getting a stadium, and just debating the placement. For me, inside DC is obviously the dream (in this comparison, a 3-0 win over the Galaxy, with Beckham getting a red card and Moreno coming out of retirement to dribble the entire LA line-up before walking the ball over the goal line). However, the object in both is still the same: Win the game. Build the stadium. College Park is not an ideal solution, but it beats the hell out of our current situation.
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I just hope they're not interested in a trip out of the DMV
by Brendanukkah on Nov 17, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
It usually takes forever to leave
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by ChestRockwell on Nov 17, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
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